To better understand a Trumpeteer, let’s take a moment to analyze a rather typical a rather sad dialogue with a such a person (well the below is not typical, but it is delicious nonetheless).
They are easy to spot, seen from a far, sporting their fake patriotism, draped it various often uncouth flags waving the bible whilst having zero notions of Christianity. I have explained in considerable detail how we arrived at this point, being now confronted with this zombie army of lost wraith-like souls. But I want to delve into one key aspect of these Trumpeteers—their total inability to fact-check their own material, let alone the inability to recognize a myth from a fact.
Meet Mike Thornton: This how this particular Trumpeteer sees me:
I picture a pimple faced, over weight high school drop out in mom’s basement, sitting at a computer eating cheese balls and making his genitals oranger and oranger. Society rejected you?
His vision of me being about as accurate as his infantile political prognostications. His observations written after he had been taken to the woodshed numerous times. I do love these end game diatribes, they insinuate an inevitable end game checkmate—another Trumpeteer bites the dust, having reached the end of their intellectual horizon—the end of their nose.
Am I rude to these people? Yes, I will call them stupid, but only when I can prove they are stupid—and this takes time and effort.
They are not willing to spend any time thinking or reading the actual content, thus all they do is take oxygen out of the room. Such ineptitude demands a lack of respect. We need to stop respecting opinions that are provably false. One can not really have people getting away with lies or slander on a thread on my Facebook page, and yet one cannot respond in detail, reinventing the wheel every moment of the day for people who refuse to think and are incapable of fact based research. Calling such people stupid is actually a polite euphemism for far worse character traits. But their “stupidity” has consequences. It is deadly and I have little patience for such.
When I engage with such people I implore them to just please, please, please say something intelligent—anything. If there is a mistake in my fact-based research, please advise me. But they never do. In this case, Mike Thornton keeps challenging me to debate him, but he never acknowledges anything I say and never researches anything he says. He just moves on to the next topic, proving his ignorance with each utterance. I know that
I know that anyone who has tried to engage with these people has run into the same problem. But what most people have not realized is that Trumpeteers literally have nothing. I am being deadly serious—they have nothing, the worldview gleaned from the machinations of Roger Ailes and his various offshoots (human beings with zero decency, zero integrity) as is now public knowledge. The media argues that it is the economy that has pissed these Trumpeteers off, but that is just not the case, and the media is too afraid and too spineless to explain why there are so many Trumpeteers. The answer is obvious and the answer is not pretty
So here is the gist of my conversations with Mike Thornton:
Mike Thornton: …Debate me
Me: (After Mike Thornton had vacuously objected to some facts about the Zika virus claiming that it was no big deal, 98% of pregnancies would be just fine...)
” I have debated and destroyed you countless times, you have nothing – if you are contesting a fact in the content – copy and paste it and point out the error. You have not said anything intelligent yet. Do you remember your sick comments and lying about the Zika Virus?
1) your 98% number is crap
2) there is no firm number but it might be 87% https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/06/16/cdc-6-zika-infected-u-s-babies-have-had-birth-defects/
3) the fact that you think 2% with the disease is perfectly acceptable is just sick
4) you complain about my researched facts, but only a mental midget would make such a complaint without bothering to find an error in the research
5) you are evidently a pro-life nut job, which means that you are guilty of promoting policies that create 40,000,000 avoidable abortions worldwide – your ignorance and stupidity leads to massive poverty disease and death –https://stupidpartyland.com/…/pro-lifers-actually… and you will be going to hell for failing to use your God-given brain.
Mike Thornton: (excuse the garbled delivery that I have to deal with)
“The only bills the dems introduced were to take away your right to protect yourself including the potty bill where you need to pee with pedophiles”…. “How does it feel supporting someone (Hillary) that calls you stupid?”
Me: Then you lied by claiming that Hillary called Democratic voters stupid. You said and posted a false meme to support your contention. Here are the facts:
“The above-displayed message was not uttered by Hillary Clinton and was not published in the 2005 book Rewriting History by Dick Morris. We found no record of the quote in any major publication. In fact, the first mention of this quote came in October 2015, more than a decade after Morris’ book was published,
Mike Thornton: (supporting his comment with the below image)
“You seem to ignore the fact the klan donated $22,000.00 and endorsed hacking hillary.”
Me:(putting aside the erroneous hacking Hillary comment)
I have warned you about fact checking several times. Your repeated and unapologetic failure on this count means that you are not simply a moron, but a lying moron.
CLAIM: The KKK officially switched their presidential endorsement from Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton and donated $20,000 to the latter’s campaign.
WHAT’S TRUE: A man claiming to be a Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon told several media outlets that the KKK had changed their political allegiance from Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton and had donated $20,000 to the latter’s campaign. So while it’s true that The Telegraph reported (and other outlets disseminated) Quigg’s claim that the KKK was now supporting Hillary Clinton and had donated $20,000 to her campaign, that assertion was widely deemed not credible by sources familiar with such groups.
Moreover, Quigg neither presented proof of his claims nor discussed them seriously.
Mike Thormton: Dems are the party of the KKK.
Me: I always find it odd how racists and racist enablers run headlong into this narrative. I mean how is it that minorities overwhelming loathe the GOP. Trump might be getting like 1% of the black vote. But Trumpeteers are nothing if not oblivious to logic. That is sort of what makes a Trumpeteer a Trumpeteer. The year is 2016, yet they seem to be living in 1776, (or at least 1963) – somewhere in the deep south, so where does this nonsense come from?
Well, it all started in 1963… with JFK.
“One hundred years of delay have passed since President Lincoln freed the slaves, yet their heirs, their grandsons, are not fully free,” Kennedy said. “They are not yet freed from the bonds of injustice. They are not yet freed from social and economic oppression.”
Kennedy’s white constituents in the South were outraged. They had overwhelmingly supported Democrats since the end of Reconstruction. Yet between April 5 and June 23 of that year, the share of white Southerners who approved of Kennedy declined by 35 percentage points to about 20 percent, according to the Gallup polls. This abrupt shift marks when white Southerners turned against Democrats, Kuziemko and Washington argue. The percentage of whites in the rest of the country saying they approved of the president did not change appreciably.
At the end of the World War II, nearly 80 percent of white Southerners were Democrats, compared to 40 percent of whites in the rest of the country. By the Reagan administration, white Southerners were no more likely to identify as Democrats than whites elsewhere. Today, the white vote in the South is almost solidly Republican.
This is what’s so funny (stupid) about the Mike Thornton’s of this world calling the Democrats racist. Yes, back in 1963 southern white Democrats were racist, but the party was moving rapidly on the issue of civil rights. Johnson shamed by the JFK legacy (having surely had a hand in JFK’s demise), passes the civil rights bill, and southern racist Democrats find they no longer have a home in the Democratic party. Where do they go? Duh—they become Republicans. The Republican party welcomes them. Today about 67% of the Republican party voters are ignorant and or bigots. Just look at the numbers. Thus by referencing this historic dynamic the Mike Thornton’s of this world are acknowledging the bloody obvious—that it is the GOP that is now the racist party, that it is the KKK party. They are just too stupid to realize it—too stupid to recognize that the year is now 2016.
Without the racists, there is no Republican party of 2016.
Moving on and undaunted, Mike Thornton posts this below meme. He has posted it at least half a dozen times on my Facebook page. There are so many clues to this being bullshit, not the least of which being that Occupy Democrats would never post such nonsense. But who has pulled the wool over Mike Thornton’s blinkered eyes?
Me: Now regarding you absurd accusation that Hillary is an anti-Semitic bigot, calling people n*gg*rs—you plummet to new depths, mainly because you are way too Supidparty to know how to fact check—you are now aligning yourself with racist anti-Semitic holocaust deniers (tough to get lower than that).
Let’s go to the source of your material, shall we?
Trump has repeatedly used research from The Clintons’ War on Women, which is co-authored by Robert Morrow—a bizarre conspiracy theorist who uses his Twitter account to endlessly tweet the slur “nigger,” including about President Obama. Nothing Stone writes should be taken seriously. He has a long history of political dirty tricks, and he regularly spouts violent, racist, and sexist rhetoric. He’s called Hillary Clinton a “cunt” and advocated for her execution. He’s also pushed racist commentary, including tweeting “nigga” and calling his perceived enemies “stupid negro,” “token,” “Uncle Tom,” “Mandingo,” and “house negro.”
Stone’s co-author Robert Morrow is similarly disreputable and racist. He’s wished death on Hillary Clinton and been visited by the Secret Service; posted bizarre sexual writings about the former secretary of state; called Chelsea Clinton a “slut” and imagined how she would “have sex one day” with Bill Clinton; posted about “pro-faggot JUDICIAL ACTIVISM”; and claimed the Bush and Clinton families were involved in murders.
The Clintons’ War on Women is dedicated to and cites anti-Clinton research from virulent anti-Semite Victor Thorn. In addition to his Clinton work, Thorn also wrote The Holocaust Hoax Exposed — as the title suggests, Thorn believes the Holocaust is a myth — and blames a “Jewish plot” for the 9/11 attack
*It is interesting to note that the source here is the very same outfit that Roger Ailes evidently had phone tapped. An emerging scandal will will further serve to destroy the legacy of Fox, an empire of deceit that is likely to unravel after the 2016 election. What is so magical about this little tidbit is that it does not simply tie in with the proven allegations against the Murdoch empire in the UK, but it now makes the sins of the US operations far worse than the sins of the UK (sins which officially made Rupert Murdoch unfit to lead a media empire, in the eyes of the the UK parliament).
Here is fact checking tip—find more than one respected source, you know, places that win awards for journalism, who fire lying journalists. Drudge, Breitbart, and any other Roger Ailes inspired fake news site are not sources for factual information.
Mike Thornton on Obamacare—which has dramatically reduced the number of Americans with out healthcare:
“There will be fewer (people insured) this year when the rates more than double. That illegal tax is dying very quickly. Try dealing in concrete facts and not dreams.”
Can you please, please, please try and say someting intelligent. The numbers are factual (i.e. the number uninsured is now 8.6%) – but then a moron cannot fact check. Rates will not double. Some are talking about 10% increases or so, the tax is legal as determined by the Supreme Court. Insurance Companies usually start with a high (proposed rate increase) number, so that the final number will look modest by comparison.
Can you begin to see the difference between us? A thinking human being makes some effort to get their facts right, but a ghastly sniveling little shit, possessing a tiny lying brain—makes no such effort.
If you had any knowledge of TRUMP you would know he has helped hundreds of people. Gary is a clown and jill got busted spratyng grafitti. hilldelete is an all around loser. ONLY TRUMP.
Me – *Note to self If you were remotely interested in knowledge you would get the facts about Trump, the fact that he is just a con man who is only interested in one person. The facts are right here.